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Posted: 15 March 2008 05:30 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I made Cheddar using Mesophilic “M”... is that bad? What is the difference between “M” and “A” and is it absolutley necesssary to use the “right one” for the cheese you are making?

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Posted: 15 March 2008 09:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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one of them produce a little co2 which is not nice to cheddar, and work best with Gouda

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Posted: 16 March 2008 08:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Nabil can you explain further? Why ok for Gouda but not cheddar?

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Posted: 16 March 2008 06:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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According to the Dairy Connection, the Mesophilic M culture contains 3 separate cultures:
Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis
Lactococcus lactis subsp. cremoris
Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis biovar diacetylactis

For soft ripened, and fresh (unripened) cheeses:
Brie, Camembert, Havarti, Gouda, Edam, Feta, Blue, Chevre, etc…

Mesophilic A only contains 2:
Lactococcus lactis subsp. lactis
Lactococcus lactis subsp. cremoris

For semi-soft and fresh cheeses:
Cheddar, Colby, Monterey Jack, Feta, Chevre, etc…

I assume it’s the extra culture in “M” that’s needed for the other cheeses.

I made a gouda with the “A” culture from New England Cheesemaking. They don’t call it “A” and they don’t seem to have the “M” culture but they say there’s can be used for Cheddar, Monteray Jack, Stilton, Edam, Gouda, Muenster, Blue, and Colby.

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Posted: 17 March 2008 01:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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MM contains LLD
MA does not

LLD Lactococcus lactis subsp
produce some small eyes in cheese for cheeses such Gouda, Edam or Havarti.

in cheddar , we do not want any eye formation, we only allow very very few mechanical opening.

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