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Posted: 24 March 2008 06:42 PM   [ Ignore ]
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A few weeks ago I made my first mold ripened cheese, the camembert recipe in Rikki’s book. I know it says to let it ripen for 4-6 weeks after the first week and after you wrap it but I couldn’t wait. I cut a wedge but when I did all this white liquid cheese came out. I was not expecting a oozy cheese.

What could have caused this? I was going to try this recipe again but with some changes from the recipe I saw on the wiki site.

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Posted: 25 March 2008 02:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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any picture?

was the liquid a whey? or over ripened cheese ???

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Posted: 25 March 2008 04:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Nabil - 25 March 2008 07:20 AM

any picture?

was the liquid a whey? or over ripened cheese ???

I don’t have any pics but the liquid was a solid white and was not whey. It was like melted brie that just oozed out of the middle. It’s only been 3 weeks since I wrapped it in paper so over ripe was the least of my worries, I was worried it would not be ready but I just couldn’t wait any longer.

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Posted: 25 March 2008 04:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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runny melted Brie @fridge temp only means it is over ripped or suffocated,

Brie/Camembert are fully riped when the middle became a little bit runny @ room temp ...

did u taste it?
what was the riping temp ?

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Posted: 25 March 2008 04:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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and how long since you mold it ?

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Posted: 25 March 2008 05:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I let it sit in the fridge in a partially opened plastic gladware box at ~45-50F on top of a cheese mate for about 12 days until there was a good layer of mold on the disks. I then wrapped in paper and turned the temp back down to ~40-45F and placed them in a CLOSED plastic box. They have been in there for 3 weeks. I started the cheese on Feb. 23., they got wrapped on March 3rd or 4th and have been in the fridge since. It tastes pretty good, but a little stronger than I would like in terms of the mold and doesn’t have the nutty/buttery flavor I was hoping for.

The mold was mixed with the culture when the cheese was made.

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Posted: 25 March 2008 05:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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tastes stronger than u expect, due to fast ripping , and i guess maybe u added less salt than you should..

runny : it is definitely over ripped , and suffocated, i do not wrap my Brie before two weeks or more (but u did nothing wrong), i guess ur white mold was so active…

enjoy it, make hot sandwich , or melt it in pot to make Fondue smile

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Posted: 25 March 2008 05:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Nabil - 25 March 2008 10:53 AM

tastes stronger than u expect, due to fast ripping , and i guess maybe u added less salt than you should..

runny : it is definitely over ripped , and suffocated, i do not wrap my Brie before two weeks or more (but u did nothing wrong), i guess ur white mold was so active…

enjoy it, make hot sandwich , or melt it in pot to make Fondue smile

I did not use very much salt. Only sprinkled it on top and bottom and on the sides. I added it like I would a plate of French Fries. Would a lower temp slow the ripening? That would be ideal since I have to increase the temp in my beer cooler to accomidate the cheese for about two weeks. I’m going to try again this weekend I think.

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Posted: 25 March 2008 06:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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put salt as it said on the book, sprinkling a little salt like u said is 100% not enough.

i put my wheel in salt dish and warp it all over all sides, and then remove the excess;  so stronger flavor it is because not enough salt to slow down the cheese/mold ripping

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Posted: 25 March 2008 09:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I had the opposite experience with my Camembert and think it was due to not enough humidity and not wrapping early enough. I think that could be it…ripening too fast.

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Posted: 25 March 2008 09:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Heathers - 25 March 2008 02:12 PM

I had the opposite experience with my Camembert and think it was due to not enough humidity and not wrapping early enough. I think that could be it…ripening too fast.

u mean too slow? right?

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Posted: 25 March 2008 09:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Mark’s ripened too fast, mine too slow

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Posted: 25 March 2008 09:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Sounds Like it ripened too fast and it was kept too warm, excess warmth will also give an ammonia smell. Also the closed container can contribute to it.

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Posted: 25 March 2008 01:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Neil - 25 March 2008 02:50 PM

Sounds Like it ripened too fast and it was kept too warm, excess warmth will also give an ammonia smell. Also the closed container can contribute to it.

It does have a slight ammonia odor.

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Posted: 25 March 2008 03:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Their u go, the nose always knows wink

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Posted: 25 March 2008 04:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Neil - 25 March 2008 08:35 PM

Their u go, the nose always knows wink

I’m pretty sure the temps were right so would a closed container cause rapid ripening and the ammonia smell?

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