Edam - 2 days in brine?
Posted: 04 August 2009 11:17 PM   [ Ignore ]
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I just made an Edam from a recipe on New Engloand Cheesemaking’s website. It called for brining for 2 days. Why would you brine a cheese for that long? Does longer brining mean thicker rinds?

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Posted: 05 August 2009 03:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I am not sure about the rind thickness, I am sure you’ll get a quite salty cheese according to the size of cheese (milk quantity) and brine concentration (should be saturated).

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Posted: 05 August 2009 03:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I’ll agree with Alex - it sounds like its going to be a really salty cheese.  Although someone must have made that cheese before putting the recipe out - unless its a misprint.  It does occur to me that I heard something a long while ago about more salt resulting in less salty taste when aged for a long time.  It sounded counter-intuitive at the time.

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Posted: 05 August 2009 11:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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More brining the more salty. Rind is just the surface drying out.

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Posted: 05 August 2009 12:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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So, longer brining time does NOT make a thicker rind? I am going to make another one tomorrow and brine for 2 hours insteads of 2 days and see what happens. Edam is a young cheese so I’ll let you know in a couple of months. Darn this waiting is driving me CRAZY. I’ve got about 20 cheese in the cave waiting to reach perfection - I hope. grin

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Posted: 05 August 2009 03:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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2 hours is probably going to be a bit hasty.  My Manchego calls for 6 hours, and most require 12.

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Posted: 05 August 2009 10:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I agree. 2 hours is probably not enough. I will probably go for 8. I jokingly used 2 hours because the 2 DAYS called for in the recipe must be a mis-print.

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Posted: 06 August 2009 08:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I couldn’t stand it any more and I cut open two of my first cheeses last weekend.
The first one being my jalapeno somked gouda.
1 Too dry
2 too salty
3 too crumbly
I had a hard time regulating my temps. in my first attempts of my new hobby.

I think with the double boiler system I may do better in my further attempts.

The second one was a Colby.
I liked every thing except.
1 Too salty.
2 Needed at least one more birthday.“month”.

I have been using Ricki Carrols book.
I plan to reduce the salt in the recipes.
And I am actually a salt lover and I am complaining. So….
Hopefully I will be a little happier with my future attempts?????

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Posted: 06 August 2009 10:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Did you wax the cheeses?

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Posted: 07 August 2009 03:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I’ll agree with your assessment of the double boiler method.  It worked much better for me.  The disadvantage seems like in larger batches - over 5 gal.  Its hard (expensive) to get a couple pots big enough to accommodate such large batches.  I am currently using a 5 gal pot which fits nicely into my kitchen sink, and the sink is the hot water holder.

On the saltiness:  just how much salt are you using?  And what kind of salt?  I believe the Colby recipe calls for t Tbsp for a 2 gal. batch.  I use 4 Tbsp for a 4 gal. batch and it works out just right.  And I am using non-iodized canning and pickling salt.  The problem here may be insufficient aging.

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Posted: 07 August 2009 06:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Yes I wax my cheeses. and Yes I use 2 tablespoons of salt for the recipes.
At first I was using generic brand un -iodized sea salt but now I am using the pickling salt as well.

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Posted: 14 November 2009 09:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Did you try your Edam yet? I made one and brined it 2 days like the recipe said (against my gut instinct). It turned out super salty & dry like a feta. We eat it crumbled on salad, and that 2 gallon batch of cheese is lasting a lot longer than the other wheels do!  I made another Edam using Margaret Morris’ recipe, and left it in for 8 hours, per her recipe. Hopefully this one will be better.

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Posted: 16 November 2009 07:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Annie C. - 15 November 2009 03:47 AM

Did you try your Edam yet? I made one and brined it 2 days like the recipe said (against my gut instinct). It turned out super salty & dry like a feta.

That’s not Edam. True Edam, as bought in Holland is a reasonably soft, silky, mild, firm cheese. Even Gouda it’s cousin is similar but a little bit firmer and dryer.

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