Anybody any idea if this is possible?
Posted: 06 July 2011 01:10 AM   [ Ignore ]
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In a regional newspaper I read an article about a farm where they milk 20 horses a day. Four times a day 2 liters of milk per mare.
First thing that struck me is that I never read anything about cheese made with milk from horses.
Anybody any idea if this is possible at all ? (just out of curiosity because they ask 10 euro per liter…)

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Posted: 06 July 2011 05:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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There used to be a farm a few miles west of me where they milked water buffalo and made mozerella.  My thought on the matter, my uninformed thought by the way, is that any type of milk can be made into cheese.  I have not personally heard of horse milk cheese; and one would wonder what the taste would be like.  I imagine one would have to take care in what the horse ingested - much the same as with any other animal.

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Posted: 06 July 2011 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I heard that Europe has gotten into Horse milk consumption, dont recall the documentary. I thingk its treated like skim milk, so unless a recipe calles for skim milk, u would probably have to add cream.


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Posted: 06 July 2011 06:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I would want to know what horse milk tastes like. There has to be a reason why you’ve never heard of it before. Maybe it has less fat content, or has some weird taste due to the diet. It is an interesting thing though, I will do some research. I learn so much from random comments on this site. Geography, religion, horse milk cheese…..

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Posted: 06 July 2011 06:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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A quote from a website “Horse milk strengthens the body, boosts the immune system and increases a person’s energy and vitality. In the case of metabolic disorders, it stimulates internal cleansing.” Doesn’t that sound good, stimulates internal cleansing.

http://www.burleson-arabians.com/horse_milk.htm

It does say that horse milk is one of the most coveted treats in the world. Herman might be on the front of a big idea. Two years from now, everybody will want horse milk cheese.

The article also says that horse milk is much more nutritious than dog or cat milk. Since I don’t drink that either, I don’t think that it will make a difference.

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Posted: 06 July 2011 07:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I believe that the big hurdle to get over in obtaining horse milk is the milking of the horse.  I imagine that its not one of the easy chores on the farm.

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Posted: 07 July 2011 12:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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According to the site that Tammy found it has the same % DM as cowmilk, but it is sweeter. I don’t think I’m at the front of a big idea, because I discovered that they ask 10 euro for a liter of milk ....
But I’m still curious how it would taste.

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Posted: 07 July 2011 03:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I had to convert the euro, my God that expensive! I don’t think I would buy it unless it guaranteed to make me lose 50lbs and make the boobs self supportive again. Otherwise, it’s not worth the money. You have to have your priorities. (I hope that doesn’t offend anyone, I think it’s hilarious and I didn’t use any vulgar language to make the joke.)

One of the articles that I found last night said that back in the1990’s that they used to sell cat milk products in Europe. It said that it was a big craze in France and Germany. I must live in a cave because I missed out on that one.

I also found one that said that donkey milk cheese sells for around $612 per lb. It said that donkey milk cheese is the most expensive cheese you can buy. WOW, I never knew anybody to milk a donkey. Now I am sure that in the past, poor people may have milked whatever they had to feed the baby to keep it from starving, I know I would, but that’s different from buying it.

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Posted: 07 July 2011 05:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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LOL, unless u watching European shows its easy to not know whats going on over their. Eating horse meat is also common.
London is one of the most expensive places on Earth so theirs going to be lots of enticement to separate the rich from their money smile

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Posted: 08 July 2011 12:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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LOL, in this case a good bra will be cheaper than a cheese…
But it’s even getting more interesting: I found a Dutch site about camel milk: http://www.kamelenmelk.nl . Site seems to be translated in English and German as well.
They sell camelmilk at 3.50 euro a for half a liter and they say that this milk can be used by people with a lactose intolerance.
The disadvantage of this milk is that the composition of caseines and whey proteins is so different that the milk will hardly coagulate…
And about eating horsemeat: In Holland it’s not so common anymore: in my youth there were specialized stores where you could buy horsemeat, but a normal butcher is hardly selling any nowadays.
On the other hand: Most salami here is containing quite a percentage of horsemeat…

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Posted: 08 July 2011 04:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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I didn’t know about the horse meat either. Now I do know that in Ireland they still eat stuff that we gave up on years ago. There is a specific list that my husband refers to as “innards” that we don’t eat. He describes it as “anything that comes wrapped in paper and stuck up a chicken’s butt”. That would be liver, gizzards, the puddings that they eat for breakfast in Ireland, pigs feet, chicken feet, hearts, tongues, ears, brains. The days when people said that they used everything on the pig but the squeal are long gone at my house.

We’ve never had horse here. I live in the south, and after the civil war in 1865 everybody was starving down here, so I’m sure if it wiggled it was good for dinner, but when Sherman burned the south he killed all of the farm animals, so there wasn’t much left wiggling. Also if you had a horse he was more valuable pulling a plow than on the dinner table.

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Posted: 09 July 2011 10:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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My, my Tammy.  I didn’t realize you were such a picky eater.

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Posted: 10 July 2011 04:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Well, in that case I’m also picky. Here in The Netherlands a lot of discussion is going on about animal rights and the bio-industry. Some driven by emotions, some driven by science. Fact is that e.g. the chicken farms are using so much antibiotics that almost 100% of the chicken meat in the supermarkets contain resident bacteria. When I see the circumstances in which a lot of animals are living it’s my choise to eat so called biological meat from cows and pigs that can go outsite, eggs from chickens that can walk free and I know exactly how the cows and goats are living on the farms where I buy my milk for my cheese. And we don’t eat horse meat, one of the reasons is that my wife is a professional horse riding instructor…

But, to get back to the subject: Anyone heard before about camel farms where they milk the camels and sell it?

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Posted: 10 July 2011 07:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I read about that on one of those websites that I found. It said that they have done research in Europe about the health benefits. It has a high level of insulin and antibodies and somebody in the U.S. has decided to duplicate the tests here. They think it may help with autism, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, Crohn’s, Parkinson’s, and food allergies. Wouldn’t it be great if Camel’s milk killed cancer and you didn’t have to have chemo therapy and radiation anymore?

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Posted: 10 July 2011 09:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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camel cheese has been around for thousands of years, in the middle east. Supposedly they first discovered how to make cheese by using a Goat/Sheep stomach to store milk/Water and after a long ride they discovered the milk had curdled in the container, and they went from their. Camels are the best form of travel for the trade routs and they were used for meat and Milk.

Nobody her follows Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall ?
His TV series River Cottage is very informative (and addictive). recently he has made a huge difference in Britain in the change of Animal treatment and now Free range chickens has drastically increased. He has brought awareness to very nasty practices in the food industry.

http://www.rivercottage.net/

Those that are interested and now how to use Bittorrent can DL the series he has made (15gig) (1st 4 years, the
http://ca.isohunt.com/download/111444849/river+cottage.torrent

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Posted: 10 July 2011 10:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Free range chickens and eggs are popular here, although expensive. I have a friend with chickens and buy eggs from her. I also know someone is about to start selling his free range chickens, as soon as they get big enough to kill.

We have a market here in Atlanta called the Dekalb Farmers Market, and everything in there is organic, and the food comes from all over the world. You can’t buy a box of Oreo cookies there, but you can get organic crackers from England or rice from Japan. The fresh produce department is amazing, they have so much stuff in there that comes from other countries and I’ve never heard of it. There are people from every where in there buying stuff. The meats department has all kinds of animals in there, but nothing like horse. Everything is organic. The chickens are wonderful. They are all cleaned and laying in the case and you tell them which one you want and they put it in a plastic bag and hand it to you. They are free range without hormones and obviously not packed in water. They are expensive, but they taste so much better than what they sell at the regular grocery store.

I make my own stocks. Beef, chicken and vegetable. I don’t think that the stuff that they sell at the grocery store is stock. It says that it has dehydrated carrots and onions in it, and chicken flavoring. That’s not the same as boiling chicken parts with carrots onions celery and herbs.

I’ve never heard of the river cottage thing but I am going to look at it. I don’t know though, finding out what you are eating leads to more doing it yourself stuff. I might have to quit my job to keep up.

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