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Posted: 21 June 2008 08:16 AM   [ Ignore ]
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How do you wax? Just curious. Brush? Dip? How do you heat wax? What vessel do you use?

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Posted: 21 June 2008 09:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I use a 100oz tomato can. If the wheel is large I brush it on, small, I dip it. Also make sure its not too runny, if its too hot then coating is very thin and apparently can damage the wax, so i go for a runny syrupy consistency.

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Posted: 21 June 2008 12:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I have an old stainless steel saucepan with a thin bottom that is my dedicated wax pan.  My wax stays in it continuously and is reheated when I need it.  I didn’t think I’d ever get it clean so I left it.  I just heat the wax over very low heat until it is entirely liquid and then brush it on, usually three coats, but I look for a good solid color (I use red wax) to insure a nice thick coat.

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Posted: 21 June 2008 02:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I do something similar, only with a cheep, old, Teflon-coated frying pan.  I just leave it right in there as well.  I have not bought real cheese wax yet, just using paraffin with a couple of red crayons melted in.  Seems to work but I believe that cheese wax would be easier to use.

I brush it on with a cheap natural-bristled brush and once it has a good coating on it, I then dip it to get a smooth finish.

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Posted: 21 June 2008 03:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Cheese wax will melt in hot water so if u have a very hot tap u can wash it out of the pan no problem.

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Posted: 21 June 2008 03:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I used parafin for my first cheese and found it to be too brittle.  The chances of cracking are pretty good.  The cheese wax stays more pliable which seems to me to be the goal.

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Posted: 21 June 2008 03:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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It is brittle.  I’ve had to touch up some of my cheese due to flaking off.

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Posted: 26 June 2008 07:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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It is said that 2 thin coats are better than one. I just waxed a cheese and I see why 2 thin coats work—if you end up with a few little holes they’ll be filled up on the next coat.

By the way I used a silicone brush and it did not work. Natural bristle is much better.

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Posted: 26 June 2008 11:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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so those of you that dip…what is the process? what vessel do you use? how do you hold it?

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Posted: 26 June 2008 10:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I f the wax is too thin its a pain to peal of when eating cheese, can always be recycled but the point is I found thin layer is a pain to get off. I use a natural pigs brissel, cheap at local handy store. I hold it over the tin and paint it on,

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Posted: 26 June 2008 11:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Talking Seagull - 21 June 2008 01:16 PM

How do you wax? Just curious. Brush? Dip? How do you heat wax? What vessel do you use?

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Posted: 27 June 2008 06:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I have a large stainless steel bowl that I place inside a pot creating a double boiler. It holds about 6 lbs of wax. I just heat the wax, dip half of the wheel, let it cool for about 30 seconds, turn it and dip the other half. I repeat the process one more time for a second coat. I found that brushing the entire wheel is too messy and actually uses more wax. I guess everyone has their own preferences…..

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Posted: 28 June 2008 05:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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I agree that waxing with a brush is messy and does not do as good a job as dipping.  I will be dipping in the future.

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Posted: 28 June 2008 06:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I have heard that the cheese “breathes” through the wax during aging.  If this is true, then one would not want to get too thick a coat of wax, as it would inhibit that process.  Anybody have some definitive information on this?

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Posted: 29 June 2008 05:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Green Cheese Maker - 28 June 2008 11:09 AM

I have heard that the cheese “breathes” through the wax during aging.  If this is true, then one would not want to get too thick a coat of wax, as it would inhibit that process.  Anybody have some definitive information on this?

i do not believe that the waxed cheeses can breath , the wax as it prevents water , it also prevents air, other wise, if any oxygen goes in, mold will grow.

only larded bandages can allow cheese to breath, and for this reason, Gouda is not allowed to be waxed before three weeks… to allow Gouda wheel to breath three weeks before waxing.

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Posted: 29 June 2008 05:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Nabil - 29 June 2008 10:41 AM
Green Cheese Maker - 28 June 2008 11:09 AM

I have heard that the cheese “breathes” through the wax during aging.  If this is true, then one would not want to get too thick a coat of wax, as it would inhibit that process.  Anybody have some definitive information on this?

i do not believe that the waxed cheeses can breath , the wax as it prevents water , it also prevents air, other wise, if any oxygen goes in, mold will grow.

only larded bandages can allow cheese to breath, and for this reason, Gouda is not allowed to be waxed before three weeks… to allow Gouda wheel to breath three weeks before waxing.

good luck

I’ve been wondering why the long air time for Gouda.  Thanks for that tidbit of info.

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